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| Tweet Topic Started: Feb 23 2011, 08:47 PM (1,320 Views) | |
| Yves Goris | Feb 23 2011, 08:47 PM Post #1 |
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Dan, I believe you love the hamblin book? what did you think of his statement about the Akkadian use of the composite bow? |
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| Dan Howard | Feb 23 2011, 09:11 PM Post #2 |
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Yadin made the claim first. As with most of these things it comes from a subjective analysis of iconographical evidence. Yadin reckons that the bow carried by Naram Sin (Sargon's grandson) looks like a composite bow because it is fairly short and has recurved limbs. There are no surviving composite bows dating this early. |
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| Jamie Szudy | Mar 5 2011, 10:34 PM Post #3 |
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There appears to have been some more work on the subject: the most recent article I know of is:
He agrees that recurved compound bows are first really evident in the Old Akkadian period, but this is still based on interpretation of pictoral evidence. No archaeological finds, and texts are lamentably mum on the subject. |
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| Yves Goris | Mar 6 2011, 12:34 PM Post #4 |
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tnx for this article. i'm trying to purchase it. it's something that has been bothering me for quite a long time for now... the problem i'm having with it is the following: many historians believe that the akkadians used the composite bow. the egyptians used the bow from the hyksos period onwars... i can't seem to find a reason why it took about 500 à 600 years to get from mesopotamia to egypt. that's something that's hard for me to believe even though historians claim that the egyptians did not have any interest in what happened in syria/anatolia/mesopotamia...
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| Dan Howard | Mar 6 2011, 12:52 PM Post #5 |
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What is the earliest physical evidence for composite bows in the Near East? |
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| Sean Manning | Mar 6 2011, 05:15 PM Post #6 |
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I'm not sure. Physical evidence seems hard because all parts of a composite bow are biodegradable (except for the models which use bone) and conditions for survival of organic material are not favourable in that area. Christopher Zuttermanp. 122 makes the usual claims about the Akkadians with a lot of citations I haven't tracked down. Its not a very good article though and relies on art for evidence. Note 34 cites an angular composite bow from a 3rd millenium BCE Siberian context. |
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| Yves Goris | Mar 7 2011, 07:37 PM Post #7 |
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I think you have to look for the composite bows of tutankhamun then... there are no physical examples known to me before that... (but i'm no professional). |
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| Yves Goris | Feb 2 2012, 09:01 PM Post #8 |
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for the guys interested in this; there's an article in the new ancient warfare on this |
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| Marc320 | Feb 3 2012, 01:19 AM Post #9 |
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Hello Yves An essential book for the Composite Bows in the Tut'Ankhamun's Tomb, remains, in my opinion : W. Mc Leod: "Composite Bows from the Tomb of Tut'ankhamon" Tut'Ankhamun's Tomb Series III- Griffith Institute, Oxford. And for the self bows in the tut'Ankhamun's Tomb : "W. McLeod: "Self Bows and other archery tackle from the Tomb of Tut'Ankhaun". Tut'Ankhamun's Tomb Series IV- Griffith Institute Oxford. I completely agree with Dan on the danger to trust the only representations to try to define - with some certainty - weapons, armors and other elements of the life in previous times. We could quote the example of the Trajan's column which was taken for a long time as only model for the armament of Trajan's army. But it is also necessary to remember that many of these representations have religious contexts (or serve to illustrate the glory of a King) which do not allow to draw from it conclusions on the use of objects illustrated at the time of the realization of these paintings or sculptures. Lastly, the abstraction of the art of the time (as for example the famous Warrior's Vase) or still "the geometric art Period" allows only to have ideas on the armament worn without being able - except archaeological finds - to try to reconstitute it. Apologize for my English ![]() Marc |
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the problem i'm having with it is the following: many historians believe that the akkadians used the composite bow. the egyptians used the bow from the hyksos period onwars... i can't seem to find a reason why it took about 500 à 600 years to get from mesopotamia to egypt. that's something that's hard for me to believe even though historians claim that the egyptians did not have any interest in what happened in syria/anatolia/mesopotamia...

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