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House
Topic Started: Mar 31 2009, 10:58 AM (77 Views)
Peter Griffin	Mar 31 2009, 10:58 AM Post #1
Administrator of the Year: 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009 Posts: 23,617 Group: Admin Member #1 Joined: February 3, 2005	Did anyone watch last nights House? What do you think of the execution...I still don't know if I liked it or not.
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syko	Mar 31 2009, 11:54 AM Post #2
Self-Proclaimed Lord of Pointless Spamming Posts: 28,280 Group: Elite Member Member #3 Joined: February 4, 2005	I watched it, and I thought it was quite interesting! The First Person perspective could have gotten annoying, but they employed it well because of the constraints of the episode, and they jumped out of it enough that it was never too much to take. Personally, I always love House regardless, but its the quirky things which make an episode memorable to me; mostly that's when they do surreal things or have unique dialogue, so an episode like that worked well to me. I'd say my favorite episode so far as distinguishing perspective goes would have to be the two-part season finale of Season 4, when House was in a bus accident and the memories of what happened were slowly revealed through drug-induced dreams and such. Very different and good. ^.^
	Two paths diverged in a wood, and I, blind to the choices presented, wandered into the middle.


Peter Griffin	Mar 31 2009, 12:23 PM Post #3
Administrator of the Year: 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009 Posts: 23,617 Group: Admin Member #1 Joined: February 3, 2005	I still don't know, the first person perspective went on a little too long, and after about 15 minutes of it I kinda started to not want to watch anymore...it wasn't until the guy passed out during surgery that the show started getting good. That was a good episode, can't narrow down a favorite for me though.
	Deep Thoughts By Peter Griffin What the heck is a turtle dove? Obama '08


syko	Apr 6 2009, 10:39 PM Post #4
Self-Proclaimed Lord of Pointless Spamming Posts: 28,280 Group: Elite Member Member #3 Joined: February 4, 2005	Concerning tonight's episode (5.20, Simple Explanation): What the hell!?
	Two paths diverged in a wood, and I, blind to the choices presented, wandered into the middle.


Peter Griffin	Apr 7 2009, 12:26 AM Post #5
Administrator of the Year: 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009 Posts: 23,617 Group: Admin Member #1 Joined: February 3, 2005	What's so What the hell? about it? Clearly it is going to extend into the next episode.^^ I like how it's ****ing with Houses mind, he can't figure it out, and that's tearing him apart. I liked the episode, hopefully one of the older cast members will make a return.
	Deep Thoughts By Peter Griffin What the heck is a turtle dove? Obama '08


syko	Apr 7 2009, 10:16 AM Post #6
Self-Proclaimed Lord of Pointless Spamming Posts: 28,280 Group: Elite Member Member #3 Joined: February 4, 2005	Well it looks like it will extend into the next episode in how it affects House, not in any feasible explanation. For all intents and pruposes, Kutner is dead. Which is what pisses me off, as the episode itself was so completely out of line with the rest of the show. First off was the dark cinematgrophy, which is a bold move, but it failed because it only annoyed, rather than amplified the mood. And then the way Kutner was revealed to be dead was so... ridiculous. After all, he was the most optimistic and cheery person on the show; its not ironic for him to commit suicide, its just stupid and unbelievable. The thing that really makes me angry, though, is how he wasn't even in the episode. In the entire history of the show, whenever a character is mortally threatened or involved in a larger plot string, then they are actually featured in the episode more than usual. If a character dies or is dying, then House will talk to them and see them; usually in a hallucinatory method. The show, while being a medical drama, is always psychologically taut, focusing on explaining the reasons behind people's thoughts and actions and thus enthralling and perplexing the viewer through such psychological deceit. To me, this episode felt entirely non-canon; it had no psychological aspects, and simply presented him as dead. Sure House didn't accept it and tried to prove otherwise, but there was no twist or clever reveal. It just was, and it was stupid at that. It went so far into not using him, that I actually thought Kal Penn (the actor who played Kutner) had died suddenly, and that this episode was the network's attempt to explain it. Anyways, my complaint is just that they did no justice to the character (who was definitely my favorite of the new doctors,) and that the episode itself was pretentious in its effort to be compelling. Honestly, it didn't even feel like an episode of House, but rather a poorly made dramatic soap opera, like Grey's Anatomy or something. I'll never stop watching House, because it is my favorite show currently on the air, but if it continues with episodes like this, I will become very angry with it. =/ Edited by syko, Apr 7 2009, 10:19 AM.
	Two paths diverged in a wood, and I, blind to the choices presented, wandered into the middle.


Peter Griffin	Apr 7 2009, 11:31 AM Post #7
Administrator of the Year: 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009 Posts: 23,617 Group: Admin Member #1 Joined: February 3, 2005	Well, I think you missed the point, it was sudden becuase it was supposed to be sudden. You know, no one saw it coming, why should the audience? I thought it was clever in that aspect. Even in the begining, wondering where he was, and then just going to his house casually, just left it completely open for surprise. And I think it was the point. I think House will figure it out, and the next episode will bring back the House you love, after all sudden death is not the norm, and I like that they made the hospital and the show itself step outside of the norm for it. Wasn't the greatest episode ever but it wasn't bad. I just think you hate it when characters die. But I agree, if every episode was like this one, I'd stop watching it as well. Taub is still there? He's interesting.... EDIT: From wikipedia In early 2009, Penn was offered the position of Associate Director of the White House Office of Public Liaison in the Obama administration, which he accepted. This necessitated his character Lawrence Kutner to be written out of the TV series House by way of Kutner's suicide. Edited by Peter Griffin, Apr 7 2009, 11:38 AM.
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syko	Apr 7 2009, 03:17 PM Post #8
Self-Proclaimed Lord of Pointless Spamming Posts: 28,280 Group: Elite Member Member #3 Joined: February 4, 2005	It was sudden, yes, but to me that was poorly executed. I do dislike it when characters leave or die, but if they're done justice and the episode is well made, then it is okay. (Episodes such as when Stacy left or Amber died were sad, but well-made.) I just felt like this one was pretentiously sudden and went so far out of the way to feel like that, that it failed to be the show House in the process. Shruggle At least you enjoyed it, but to me it was very bad. Concerning the edit: Thanks for finding that out! It really clears it up, and I'm glad it was actually a positive reason behind him leaving the show. I still think that they could have actually had him in his final episode to make it more dramatic and sincere, but I can at least respect him for choosing not to be in it.
	Two paths diverged in a wood, and I, blind to the choices presented, wandered into the middle.


Peter Griffin	Apr 7 2009, 08:54 PM Post #9
Administrator of the Year: 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009 Posts: 23,617 Group: Admin Member #1 Joined: February 3, 2005	True, oh well....I wonder who is going to replace him! O.o I'm sure he'll have a blast working as a political person...
	Deep Thoughts By Peter Griffin What the heck is a turtle dove? Obama '08


syko	Apr 7 2009, 09:46 PM Post #10
Self-Proclaimed Lord of Pointless Spamming Posts: 28,280 Group: Elite Member Member #3 Joined: February 4, 2005	Indeed, at least assuming he's replaced. I doubt it'll be anything this season, as there's only three episodes left. Though maybe they'll bring Chase and Cameron back into more prominent roles, in which case I'd say its certainly a fair trade-off. Haha, yah, it sounds like an eerily proper fit for him. ^.^
	Two paths diverged in a wood, and I, blind to the choices presented, wandered into the middle.


Peter Griffin	Apr 8 2009, 12:10 AM Post #11
Administrator of the Year: 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009 Posts: 23,617 Group: Admin Member #1 Joined: February 3, 2005	From the 30 second preview...it looks as if Cameron may be coming back, or at least getting a more prominent role.xD I would love to have a new person though, new issues, new problems. I really have no idea what he is he is actually doing...I tried looking it up....Apparently if he had the job in Bushes early years his boss would be Karl Rove.
	Deep Thoughts By Peter Griffin What the heck is a turtle dove? Obama '08


syko	Apr 8 2009, 11:06 AM Post #12
Self-Proclaimed Lord of Pointless Spamming Posts: 28,280 Group: Elite Member Member #3 Joined: February 4, 2005	Yah, it'd be great if they brought her and Chase back. They probably wouldn't be in the same position as they were way back when, but they could certainly be featured more. Poor Chase is only ever there during surgeries! Yah, the new people turned out great. Most shows really fail when they cut out half the cast like that and bring in completely new ones, but House made it really fun and interesting. I've no doubt they could bring in a completely new person and succeed (well, assuming the writer of that last episode doesn't do it! =P) Hmm... interesting. o.0 Not that I have any real clue, but I got the idea that he was a public relations person, kind of there to represent the administration to the younger demographic.
	Two paths diverged in a wood, and I, blind to the choices presented, wandered into the middle.


syko	Apr 13 2009, 10:32 PM Post #13
Self-Proclaimed Lord of Pointless Spamming Posts: 28,280 Group: Elite Member Member #3 Joined: February 4, 2005	So tonight's episode was pretty good. Nothing spectacular, but at least it had some old school House/Wilson interactions. ^.^ I think that, after seeing it, I figured out what really bothered me about Kutner's death; just how sudden it was. Usually a character at least gets one episode to devote to a disappearance, if it isn't hinted at earlier. Not only did Kutner not get that, but he died at the beginning of the episode. So one minute he seems perfectly fine (better than the rest, at least!), then he's suddenly dead; no transition. Of course they wrote this off as aiding to their message about suicide and blah blah, then gave the explanation of nobody expecting it, not even House. I guess they didn't have much of a choice granted the reason for him being written off, but it just seemed so... sloppy. Sloppy and sudden. Oh well, next week's episode looks good! The ones with hallucinations and a focus on House's psyche always tend to be. Its drawing into the last three or four episodes of the season as well, so I'm sure there'll be some great drama.
	Two paths diverged in a wood, and I, blind to the choices presented, wandered into the middle.


Peter Griffin	Apr 14 2009, 12:43 AM Post #14
Administrator of the Year: 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009 Posts: 23,617 Group: Admin Member #1 Joined: February 3, 2005	Yah it was good, and there was a lot of Chase in it, you seem to be a fan of him! Not next week, the week after, they are taking a break for some reason.:( I hate when they do that, but yes the episode looks good.:)
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syko	Apr 14 2009, 01:31 AM Post #15
Self-Proclaimed Lord of Pointless Spamming Posts: 28,280 Group: Elite Member Member #3 Joined: February 4, 2005	He was always my favorite out of the first group, as he was the most House, in my opinion. Tonight's episode may have been one of the few times in the season he's actually been seen without a surgical mask on! =P Ahh, yah, I forgot about that. =/ It's always either sports or American Idol, and I loathe both!
	Two paths diverged in a wood, and I, blind to the choices presented, wandered into the middle.


Peter Griffin	Apr 14 2009, 10:59 AM Post #16
Administrator of the Year: 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009 Posts: 23,617 Group: Admin Member #1 Joined: February 3, 2005	I don't know, there are no sports out there that will conflict that I know of, I think their just taking a week off like Lost sometimes does...I hate it when shows do that...>_>
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syko	Apr 14 2009, 12:46 PM Post #17
Self-Proclaimed Lord of Pointless Spamming Posts: 28,280 Group: Elite Member Member #3 Joined: February 4, 2005	Indeed. =/ I don't really know that much about the television show creation process, but I guess they do get backed up sometimes, where they film a few shows in advance and then get stuck editing and such, which causes the release of some episodes to slow down. Depending on how sudden Penn's departure was, they may have had to shift a bunch of stuff around in order to make Kutner's plotline end, which could cause a delay.
	Two paths diverged in a wood, and I, blind to the choices presented, wandered into the middle.


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