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| HoodieBoy | Aug 1 2010, 08:49 PM Post #261 |
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Hmm...2010 seemed a lot more far away then. Did you know that they now set the beginning of Homer and Marges relationship in the nighties instead of the seventies just so they could justify the kids ages now? I really dont like the idea that they retconned their history in a way. |
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| BaZul | Aug 1 2010, 11:50 PM Post #262 |
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| Tom_AIAC | Aug 2 2010, 06:21 PM Post #263 |
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Or they don't plan on being on the air for 21 years
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| alphatroll | Aug 3 2010, 05:39 PM Post #264 |
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"Burns' suit?" Would that be the tuxedo he'd planned to have made from greyhound fur? As far as I'm concerned, it's still about 1990 in Springfield*. Except, of course, for the available cameos and potential for political satire! *Is that such a stretch? I mean, it's still around 1880 here in Fairfield... |
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| Tom_AIAC | Aug 3 2010, 09:50 PM Post #265 |
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No, that's from the two-parter "Who Shot Mr. Burns," in parody of a notable moment from the TV series Twin Peaks. It's explained down in the cultural references section. When I worked at the Suncoast video store in the mall, these are some of the episodes we had as a sample VHS we could play on the various TVs in the store. Most of the time we ignored all the movies we had and just played The Simpsons ones over and over, to the point we were talking right along with the characters :lol: Another video we seemed to play over and over again was Labyrinth . I'm sure the customers loved it when I sang "dance magic dance!" Anyway, I mixed feelings about the whole changing of the era The Simpsons is set in. On one hand, I hate that they essentially dumped on the past history of the show like it's irrelevant. At the same time, how else can they justify making current cultural references? (something that's essentially to a show like The Simpsons). There's really no ideal situation here. ....aside from accepting the fact that maybe it's time to end the series. Even then, as much as I think the current episode lack what made the show special, I'd still be sad to see it go. |
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| Shahla | Aug 4 2010, 01:09 AM Post #266 |
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Well, at least it isn't as bad as some sitcoms: 1. Family Ties ... Andy was a baby, and then the next season, he was 5. What the heck??? 2. Cosby Show - In the first episode, they had 4 kids. Where the heck did Sandra come from? 3. Family Matters - Several things. Somewhere around the last couple seasons, Aunt Rose and the youngest sister - Judy - just disappeared. No one ever mentioned them again..... And then in the last season, Harriet was not Harriet anymore. They changed the Mom! 4. Fresh Prince of Bel Air ... Same thing as Family Ties with Nicky. Mysterious aging syndrome... 5. Head of The Class: Did anyone notice the smartest kids in the high school actually went to high school for FIVE years?? lol 6. Happy Days: The eldest son ... I think his name was Chuck? .. disappeared. In one episode, Howard Cunningham stated he had two kids. What happened to Chuck?? And WHY the heck did that kid named Chaucy have a SEVENTIES haircut in a FIFTIES setting.... he'd have had the crud beat out of him for being a sissy with a haircut like that in the 50s. 7. Changing the actress happened in two dramas I can remember too. Paige, the eldest daughter in "Life Goes On", which was a real shame because I liked the first one. Then there was the middle daughter in Dr. Quinn, Medicine Woman. .......Not that I watched those shows or anything. Nope. Course not. |
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| Shahla | Aug 4 2010, 01:15 AM Post #267 |
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I just thought of anther one. WHY, in Happy Days and LaVerne and Shirly, did the characters all live in Milwaukee .... but have Brooklyn accents?? I lived in Wisconsin. We didn't sound like people from Brooklyn. |
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| Doc Sigma | Aug 4 2010, 08:20 AM Post #268 |
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According to the storyline, Laverne De Fazio actually grew up in Brooklyn before moving to Milwaukee. That explains her, but doesn't really explain anyone else. |
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| Shahla | Aug 4 2010, 09:30 AM Post #269 |
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I was not aware of that, but yeah - you have a lot of others still. I don't think Shirley had it as much, but Lenny, Squiggy, Carmine, Rosie ... among others. Of course it was a spin-off from Happy Days, and on there you had Fonzi and Chaucy, among others who weren't on as much (like Jenny Picallo). None of them had a Wisconsin accent. But then that's not all that unusual with these television show (or movie) producers. I often think they must have never been in the places they are trying to portray, because they do such a horrible job. Sweet Home Alabama made me very angry, for instance. Sonny With a Chance? no chance they portray Wisconsin right there. I watched ConAir with a friend of mine in Alabama ... it got about 2 minutes into the film when Nicholas Cage spoke with what I guess they thought was supposed to be an Alabama accent. It was like nothing I ever heard before or since, but I know the second he spoke my friend and I looked at each other, and both burst out laughing. The only one I found remotely right was Elizabethtown, but then I only lived near there for about 6 months. (In case you can't tell, I've lived all over the Eastern/Midwestern US.) |
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| Tom_AIAC | Aug 4 2010, 07:21 PM Post #270 |
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Oh my gosh, even as a kid, that drove me nuts! They were characters on the show and then when they decided they weren't useful anymore, they just vanished. That's TERRIBLY awful writing right there! One I always remember was "Might Morphin' Power Rangers." Yes, I used to watch that when it first came out (I think I was in 4th grade...). I remember three of the original rangers left the show unexpectedly, so they never showed the characters on screen outside of their ranger outfits. When they did appear as the Japanese footage in character, they had other actors imitating their voices. At least when THEY were replaced though, they came up with some excuse like they were attending a peace conference. They didn't just disappear. So come on sitcoms. Even Power Rangers could address it. Why can't you? (I can't believe I remembered all that, incidentally :lol: I was always REALLY good at telling when I voice in a carton had been replaced though)
Oddly enough, Connecticut and Rhode Island are EXACTLY like they're portrayed in Family Guy. :lol: I'm kidding. Though I always got a kick out of the fact that the characters on that show shopped at "Stop and Shop." That's the grocery I worked at for a couple years. I wonder if they still use it in the show (I stopped watching Family Guy a long while ago. I can't get into it anymore) You do bring up a good point though Shahla. I think it's because a great deal of the entertainment industry is so focused on stereotypes. I mean, look at how parts of the South are frequently portrayed. I'm sure decent people living down there are appalled by it. Well come join Doc and myself in New England! You'll love the cold!
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| Shahla | Aug 5 2010, 01:23 AM Post #271 |
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lol You forget, I just left Wisconsin. And I wasn't in the southern part of the state, either. That's cold enough. I remember the fast job Disney had to pull to explain the sudden disappearance of Lalaine from Lizzy Macguire. She suddenly has to go with her family on a trip to Mexico ... So Lizzy's best friend through the WHOLE SERIES doesn't even show up in the movie?? Hello? Not that I watched that either..... At least they didn't pull a Head of The Class with Zoey 101 though. It ran 4 seasons. You know another tidbit about Family Matters? You know Steve Urkel's Girlfriend, Myra Munkhouse? She was 28 when she first appeared on the show. lol She was playing a 15 year old. She had been a girlfriend on a TV series before ... remember Theo's girlfriend, Justine, on The Cosby Show? Yep... that's her! She died in 1998, the same year Family Matters ended, from stomach cancer. She refused treatment because she was afraid it would interfere with her ability to conceive children. But, she passed away before she could have any. Something I totally don't get ... Michelle Thomas' biography on IMDB has her death listed as 1998 .... but has her in a TV show in 2008.....????? |
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| alphatroll | Aug 5 2010, 05:44 PM Post #272 |
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I think the best response in these situations is the tried-and-true one that's worked just fine in storytelling for thousands of years: It's a STORY. It doesn't HAVE to fit the timeline of reality. (And seeing how Hope's first few days with the Morgans have gone, that's pretty fortunate!) ![]() I sometimes think there's a big cultural gap where the whole "understanding the difference between reality and stories" thing should fit. People nitpick little holes in TV shows and comic books, then get incensed when it's suggested that millennia-old tales might *not* be literally true down to every detail. Westerners dealing with "primitive" people keep hitting the barrier when their "subjects" talk about the reality of their legends in the same breath as the obviously contradictory reality of actual life. Is it really that hard to understand concepts like "Dreamtime"? It's quite simple: the difference between "literally real" and "literarily real" is bigger than any two letters, and it should be obvious to anyone past the age of 3. (Ironically, 4-year-olds seem to be able to consistently handle the difference with no trouble at all.....)
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For anyone who doesn't know what Upper-Midwest winters are *really* like, just read Neil Gaiman's American Gods. There's a reason why folklore from places like Russia tends to personify Death and Winter as one-and-the-same. (And hey, it's a really good book too!) I actually had a lot of fun counting the locations used in the book that I'd been to. I've eaten in the very Round Barn Inn where the gods' "conference" was held, AND at the "Famous Chilly Burgers" restaurant Shadow stopped at while on the run! (The House On The Rock goes without saying.) (Come to think of it, was Mount Horeb & its Mustard Museum mentioned too, or am I thinking of a different book?) |
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| Shahla | Aug 5 2010, 08:34 PM Post #273 |
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I've never read that. Maybe I should. I went to The House On The Rock every year. Did you get to go since they put in the Infinity Room? I really loved listening to the music machines. 2 years ago where I lived the snow was so high on the sides of the roads that if you climbed to the top you could almost touch the electric cables (or whichever ones they string lowest on the pole). It started to cause problems (couldn't see traffic at intersections, and avalanching) so they had to bring in trucks and bulldozers and haul it somewhere for dumping. I think they dumped it in the river and that's why it flooded. It usually snows in November and you do NOT see the ground again until April. The last vestiges of snow may hang on til May. Temps of -30 are not very uncommon in January/February. That's right... NEGATIVE 30. Windchills reached 50-60 below zero. Sometimes your gasoline freezes in the lines, but I fortunately never had that happen. On January 1 one Winter, I jumped in the hole they made in the ice for the Polar Bear Swim. :-) |
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| Tom_AIAC | Aug 6 2010, 09:51 PM Post #274 |
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Yeah, I tend to agree with that. But it really depends on the type of story. Some things would fall completely apart if they didn't stick to explicit timelines. Where as things like animated sitcoms and comic strips are a lot more forgivable. I tend not to give too much reference to the moment in time AIAC takes place in, so that I can make references to whatever's going on in current pop culture if I want to, even if only so many days have passed for the characters. Besides, one of the benefits of art is being able to bend reality. With The Simpsons instance mentioned before though, it seems like quite a drastic bend. We've known these characters for years. We're familiar with their lives and where they came from. Now all of a sudden we're suppose to forget all the flashbacks to Marge and Homer getting together and beginning their family like it didn't happen that way and accept a whole new back-story. It feels very false. |
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| alphatroll | Aug 7 2010, 08:23 PM Post #275 |
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Exactly, and that's the whole mistake. It didn't need to be changed. Someone was just thoughtlessly trying to solve a problem that didn't exist. The big comic book publishers make the same mistake every few years too (thus the "Another New Crisis" syndrome, lamented in an awesome song by Kirby Krackle that unfortunately didn't make their MySpace site). |
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| reynard61 | Aug 11 2010, 03:31 AM Post #276 |
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Unfortunately, the only "interesting" thing to happen to me this week is the death of my laptop Sunday. (Wouldn't you know it, both the processor *and* the hard-drive died at the same time!) Fortunately, most of the stuff on it is replaceable; and I'm going to see if I can get by with my iPad before I think about buying another one. |
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| Tom_AIAC | Aug 11 2010, 07:34 PM Post #277 |
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Oh yikes! That's unfortunate It's a good thing you got the iPad when you did!My Aunt that's in town this week has one, so I've played with it a little. I've warmed up to it a bit more, and think it has some nifty features (or nifty potential). For me personally though, my iPhone will still do the job. |
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| Tom_AIAC | Aug 16 2010, 12:45 AM Post #278 |
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Got to see two of my very favorite bands, Green Day and A.F.I. in concert this past Thursday night. Ironically, almost exactly a year since the last Green Day concert I went to, in the same city, but in a different venue. I must say, it was an AMAZING show! A.F.I. was the opening act, and I was disappointed to discover they were already on stage playing when we arrived at the arena. The tickets said the show started at 8:00. We were walking in the doors at 8:00 on the dot, and they were already on their third song. I didn't have a lot of time to be super sad about that fact, since as soon as I sat down I got engrossed in their performance. They sound really great live! Davey Havok has SUCH a presence on stage. I love his flamboyance. Their setlist was: 1. Medicate 2. Girl's Not Grey 3. Leaving Song, Part 2 4. I Am Trying Very Hard to be Here 5. The Missing Frame 6. Beautiful Thieves 7. Dancing Through Sunday 8. Silver and Cold 9. Miss Murder 10. Love Like Winter Anyway, as much as I adore A.F.I., I adore Green Day THAT much more. I mean, I literally grew up with Green Day, while A.F.I. is a relatively newer musical acquisition. And just like last time, Green Day put on one of the greatest live shows I've ever seen. Everything about it (from pyro, to the set/ graphics, to the interaction with the audience) was completely top notch! They actually played for three whole hours! It felt like the show was never going to end (and I would have been just fine with that). The only downside was the audience members with seats never decided to sit down, so we ended up standing the entire three hours. Ah well, it was worth it for a show like that. Their setlist: # Song Of The Century # 21st Century Breakdown # Know Your Enemy # East Jesus Nowhere # Holiday # ¡Viva la Gloria! # Give Me Novacaine # Letterbomb # Are We The Waiting # St. Jimmy # Boulevard Of Broken Dreams # Geek Stink Breath # F.O.D. # Dominated Love Slave # J.A.R. (Jason Andrew Relva) # Going To Pasalacqua # 2000 Light Years Away # Hitchin' A RideAdditional Information: With "Mother Mary" and "It's Fuck Time" snippets by The Foxboro Hot TubsWith "Mother Mary" and "It's F*** Time" snippets by The Foxboro Hot Tubs # When I Come Around # Iron Man/Crazy Train/You Really Got Me/Sweet Child O' Mine/Highway To Hell/Master Of Puppets/...And Justice For All/Ain't Talkin' 'bout Love # Brain Stew # Jaded # Longview # Basket Case # She # King For A DayAdditional Information: With Benny Hill Theme SnippetWith Benny Hill Theme Snippet # Shout (The Isley Brothers cover) # Break On Through (To The Other Side)/Free Fallin'/(I Can't Get No) Satisfaction/Hey Jude # 21 GunsAdditional Information: Paint It Black by The Rolling Stones IntroPaint It Black by The Rolling Stones Intro # American Eulogy # Minority # Encore: # American Idiot # Jesus of Suburbia # Encore 2: # When It's TimeAdditional Information: Billie Joe acousticBillie Joe acoustic # WhatsernameAdditional Information: Billie Joe acousticBillie Joe acoustic # Wake Me Up When September Ends # Good Riddance (Time Of Your Life) (huh, that came out kinda funky. That's what I get for copy and pasting from another site) And a couple of not so good pictures I took from the show: http://yfrog.com/5nwtlzj http://yfrog.com/f1uttoj |
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| CreamCrazy | Aug 16 2010, 01:57 PM Post #279 |
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THEY PLAYED LETTERBOMB AND AMERICAN EULOGY????? You very lucky person ![]() Sounded like an awesome gig, & from your photograph; it seems like you were in the same area of seating I was at for the Wembley Gig but not as high up as mine was. |
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| icypop | Aug 16 2010, 03:31 PM Post #280 |
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Today I got a good diagnosis about my back, I found out that doing a PhD is now a real possibility for me, and I got a tweet off Stan Bush on Twitter. Monday is made of win. |
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