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| Topic Started: Dec 25 2013, 01:28 AM (349 Views) | |
| Snappy | Dec 25 2013, 01:28 AM Post #1 |
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#TeamLummas
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North get: Nathan Vardy and Fraser McInness Gold Coast get: Shane Savage Phlow to confirm. |
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| Colby | Dec 25 2013, 01:30 AM Post #2 |
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Tom Jonas Appreciation Society
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Doneski. |
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| Pinny | Dec 25 2013, 07:44 AM Post #3 |
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John Meesen
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What is going on on this site |
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| Pinny | Dec 25 2013, 07:44 AM Post #4 |
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John Meesen
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Who in their right mind would want Savage over Vardy? |
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| Colby | Dec 25 2013, 10:19 AM Post #5 |
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Tom Jonas Appreciation Society
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As much as I love Vardy's degenerative hips and grand total of 17 games over three years, I'm gonna stick with Savage. Thanks Pin <3 |
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| Pinny | Dec 25 2013, 10:46 AM Post #6 |
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John Meesen
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Even with no hips he has more upside than Savage
Edited by Pinny, Dec 25 2013, 10:47 AM.
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| Colby | Dec 25 2013, 01:21 PM Post #7 |
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Tom Jonas Appreciation Society
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Pinny can you tell me the last player you picked up before they broke out who wasn't a first round draft pick? No offense but when it comes to judging upside in players you're probably in the bottom 3 on the site. Savage went at about 85ppg this season minus sub-affected games, he's also a great user of the footy and is solid athletically, given he'll now have infinitely more opportunity to play his game saying he has less upside than a key forward with degenerative hips is just moronic. Would love to hear any logical criticism you have of him based on anything football related, fire away Pin. |
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| Snappy | Dec 25 2013, 02:21 PM Post #8 |
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#TeamLummas
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With Smith out for about half of next season, I needed someone to fill that ruck spot hence this trade. Also a fan of McInnes. |
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| Stoney | Dec 25 2013, 06:15 PM Post #9 |
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David Spriggs
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Fucking love this for Snappy. |
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| Colby | Dec 25 2013, 07:09 PM Post #10 |
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Tom Jonas Appreciation Society
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Haha, love the absolute shit kicking Tom Hawkins value has taken because of an isolated degenerative condition to one disc in his back, yet Vardy's hips are further damaged literally every time he steps onto the field. His injury should have ended his career, and it's only through missing nearly 70% of games since he did it that he's even on a list any more. The biggest problem with him is that he doesn't have just one problem, he fractured the joint during the (relatively minor) hit that caused all his issues, tore away the majority of the cartilage in the hip and has had huge issues with Osteophytes (excess bone growing in the socket) which was why they operated on it again in 2012. With a very small amount of Cartilage left in the socket the hip is now Osteoarthritic, that's a permanent, incurable condition which to put it bluntly means he's not able to run without pain management treatment, and considering the demands of AFL football if he's playing more than even 12 games a year that's simply not going to be sustainable. Vardy had an incredible amount of potential before his injury, but I can't find any cases of athletes with Osteoarthritic joints playing at an elite level for longer than a five year time frame, there might be some, but I can't find them. The first thing I asked Boof when we confirmed the deal was to not bring up his hips in the trade thread, I hope he does get a year or two of consistent footy out of himself with proper management, but this is the perfect time to trade him out. |
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| Colby | Dec 25 2013, 07:10 PM Post #11 |
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Tom Jonas Appreciation Society
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Oh, and Savage is good too.
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| Stoney | Dec 25 2013, 09:18 PM Post #12 |
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David Spriggs
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Snappy, I agree with TBNB that vardy may struggle to ever walk again. Hit me up with a list of interests champ. |
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| Snappy | Dec 25 2013, 09:21 PM Post #13 |
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#TeamLummas
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Haha ![]() I saw a video the other day of Vardy back flipping of a pier, those hips must be really fucked
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| Stoney | Dec 25 2013, 09:54 PM Post #14 |
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David Spriggs
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He was training unrestricted in the main group prior to Christmas, participating in full drills. Still a better AFFL prospect than savage that's for sure. |
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| Colby | Dec 25 2013, 10:08 PM Post #15 |
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Tom Jonas Appreciation Society
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Ah well <3 |
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| Colby | Dec 25 2013, 10:16 PM Post #16 |
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Tom Jonas Appreciation Society
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Pain Management is a beautiful thing, unfortunately no amount of Percocet rebuilds a hip. |
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