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Gold Coast and Geelong (It's a big one); ####
Topic Started: Jul 27 2012, 09:45 PM (822 Views)
Colby
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Terry Bull
Jul 27 2012, 10:35 PM
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Jul 27 2012, 10:28 PM
Terry Bull
Jul 27 2012, 10:19 PM
rocklovelive
Jul 27 2012, 10:17 PM
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Jul 27 2012, 10:13 PM
Terry Bull
Jul 27 2012, 10:04 PM
And RLL maybe you should remember our Riewoldt talks before commenting on coaches backing out of offers they made
I've still got the whole PM conversation, so which part is it that you'd like me to remember?
Terry?
The bit where u made an offer and I said I would do it. But then u said I took too long and u had changed your mind
I would hire Tiprat ahead of you.
Aren't you the reason why a few coaches have left? (including tiprat)

I thought you were going to change your ways? Was the only reason you were to come back.

Now your back at it trying to get coaches to quit again.

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Me coming back was dependant on serving the site in a constructive and positive way.....

Getting you sacked would be going above and beyond the call tbh.
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I made the original offer.
You told me you couldn't do it without receiving a key forward in return.
I replied, and reiterated my original offer, highlighting a key forward in your reserves.
You made a counter offer, and as such declined the original offer.
I declined, and told you I couldn't improve on my original offer.
You then made another different counter offer, and as such declined the offer once again.
I declined.
You made the same offer again.
I made a counter offer, and told you that if you were happy you could post.
You made that same offer, yet again, and as such declined my counter.
I declined.
You tried to accept the original offer I made because you realised you had missed out on a good deal because you over rated your own players and got greedy.


I decided against posting the actual PM's, but that's the summary of it. Any parts you want to debate, I'd be happy to send you a copy of the PM, or I can post them publicly. Your call.

You of all coaches don't have the right to criticise the way anyone else acts in trade negotiations. So many coaches come to me to express their frustrations with you, telling me how incredibly painful it is to try and get a deal done. Every player on your list gets a 200% mark up. You barely make offers. You barely make counter offers. You are the single worst coach on the site to deal with. And you want to have a go at me?
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Jul 27 2012, 10:37 PM
I made the original offer.
You told me you couldn't do it without receiving a key forward in return.
I replied, and reiterated my original offer, highlighting a key forward in your reserves.
You made a counter offer, and as such declined the original offer.
I declined, and told you I couldn't improve on my original offer.
You then made another different counter offer, and as such declined the offer once again.
I declined.
You made the same offer again.
I made a counter offer, and told you that if you were happy you could post.
You made that same offer, yet again, and as such declined my counter.
I declined.
You tried to accept the original offer I made because you realised you had missed out on a good deal because you over rated your own players and got greedy.


I decided against posting the actual PM's, but that's the summary of it. Any parts you want to debate, I'd be happy to send you a copy of the PM, or I can post them publicly. Your call.

You of all coaches don't have the right to criticise the way anyone else acts in trade negotiations. So many coaches come to me to express their frustrations with you, telling me how incredibly painful it is to try and get a deal done. Every player on your list gets a 200% mark up. You barely make offers. You barely make counter offers. You are the single worst coach on the site to deal with. And you want to have a go at me?
I'm making trades tho?

If all my players are so overrated how is this happening?

Sack me if I'm so bad then.
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Terry Bull
Jul 27 2012, 10:39 PM
Sack me
You heard the man, let it be so!
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Jul 27 2012, 10:32 PM
Pinny
Jul 27 2012, 10:29 PM
I remember saying that a while ago and everyone was saying it was to far...
TOLD YOU SO
I remember that too, you have my apologies Pinny. Gav get a hold of him and let the boy know he can have the Geelong gig.
Bring back the tiprat ;)
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Jul 27 2012, 10:40 PM
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Jul 27 2012, 10:32 PM
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Jul 27 2012, 10:29 PM
I remember saying that a while ago and everyone was saying it was to far...
TOLD YOU SO
I remember that too, you have my apologies Pinny. Gav get a hold of him and let the boy know he can have the Geelong gig.
Bring back the tiprat ;)
Only on the condition that he's not allowed to post/trade/be online when I am.
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TBNB i have taken you report very seriously, i will have a chat to the other GM to see what punishment we decide on
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Defs know your not liked when pinny and tbnb of all people are calling back tippy ;)
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Pinny
Jul 27 2012, 10:42 PM
TBNB i have taken you report very seriously, i will have a chat to the other GM to see what punishment we decide on
After your discussions, what have you decided your highness?
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We have decided that Terri deserves a first round pick
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Terry Bull
Jul 27 2012, 10:39 PM
I'm making trades tho?

If all my players are so overrated how is this happening?

Sack me if I'm so bad then.
Wait ... you called me out. You told me that I'd backed out of a deal. I provided you with proof and you don't even comment on it. Hoping it'll go away?

The only way you get deals done is because Stoney left you with a very desirable list. Had you taken over a team like Port Adelaide, I doubt you'd be getting deals done because the pain of your negotiations would outweigh the player the other coach was trying to get.

Instead of just blaming everyone else for how you act, why don't you sit back and think "Hang on, it's sixteen other members on the site, that might not be a coincidence?". You'd have a hell of a lot more fun on the site if you actually did away with all the over rating, the talking down of players, all the stupid games. It'd benefit your negotiations, it'd benefit your side but most of all it'd benefit you.
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Jul 27 2012, 10:47 PM
We have decided that Terri deserves a first round pick
Seems the only logical conclusion you could have come too, good work fellas.
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I see no issue

Situation A) Terry backs out. Deal doesn't happen

Situation B ) Terry confirms. Deal is reversed. Deal doesn't happen.

If Terry did indeed twice confirm that TBNB should post it - then yeah, he's an unethical bastard (fuckin geelong coaches aye), but it's a terrible offer from TBNB in the first place
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Agree this deal regardless shouldn't happen.
Dockers are loading.......
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Jul 27 2012, 10:57 PM
I see no issue

Situation A) Terry backs out. Deal doesn't happen

Situation B ) Terry confirms. Deal is reversed. Deal doesn't happen.

If Terry did indeed twice confirm that TBNB should post it - then yeah, he's an unethical bastard (fuckin geelong coaches aye), but it's a terrible offer from TBNB in the first place
Unlike the offer you made to the previous Geelong coach before Stoney? :P
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Polda? <_<
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Oh yeah, I forgot about him....christ Geelong's had an awful employment history, board all need to be sacked.
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Lol Tippy ain't never coming back, he was tripe.

Like Stife said this deal had no chance of being allowed anyway, TBNB maybe just did it to get TB in trouble?
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