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North Melbourne + Port Adelaide; ####
Topic Started: Sep 24 2010, 11:10 AM (232 Views)
Deledio2Conca
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Port Adelaide receives Ryan Harwood + Gavin Urquhart + Pick 21 + Pick 52 + Pick 97
North Melbourne receives Jake King + Nathan Vardy + Pick 23 + Pick 41 + Pick 74
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Confirmed.

Cheers D2T.
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Am hoping King can take his late season form into next year. He occupied Richmond's small forward spot late in the year, and in his last 7 games he scored 75+ in 6 of those games, which also included 5 85+ games as a small forward.

I know I've taken some punts on late season form in Pyke and King, so hopefully they pay off.

Vardy is a long term prospect who I'm happy to develop behind Fraser, Pyke and Lobbe.

Harwood is a goer and I think he's got a real future, so was pretty hard to part with him, he'll get a good amount of games next season.

Urquhart probably hasn't lived up to expectations as of yet, but he is a booming kick and could be a sleeper for next year.
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I'm hoping Urquhart's boot gets him a permanent spot at NM.

Harwood I can see becoming a regular for Brisbane and I rate him so am happy to get him.

King had a great end to the season and I reckon he'll continue it. Was difficult to let him go.

Vardy might get some games over the next couple of years but getting West a couple of days ago meant I had more than enough Geelong ruckmen.
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Reckon Richmond are carrying way to many meh type midgets to become a good team atm
(Farmer,Webberley,Nason,Hicks,Nahas,Tambling,White,King)
would reckon King will be 1 of the 1st to be phased out in 2011.He is cod ordinary at best.

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Reckon Richmond are carrying way to many meh type midgets to become a good team atm
(Farmer,Webberley,Nason,Hicks,Nahas,Tambling,White,King)
would reckon King will be 1 of the 1st to be phased out in 2011.He is cod ordinary at best.

Sorry but thats just an incorrect statement. King is loved by Hardwick and has changed his game to become the defensive small forward that Richmond have lacked.

Farmer and Webberly are defenders.
Hicks will remain on the rookie list.
Tambling is up for trade, and besides, he doesn't play as a forward.
King is ahead of White and Nahas.
Nason is more of a wingman, half forward.

King is a best 22 player for Richmond.

Lawyered.
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I dont think he was saying his position security is in question, the fact he's just not very good and if Richmond want to develop kids into a premiership winning team - guys like Jake King need to go.
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Guys, guys. I know I'm wrong about a lot of things on here, but this isn't one of them.

If you watched the last two months of Richmond you'd see that he's reinvented himself as a forward, Richmond won't be looking to phase him out anytime soon.

Believe me guys, he isn't just a fill-in anymore. Am happy to cop the flack but like I said, I won't be proven wrong about this.
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I agree with D2T and he knows I wasn't overly keen to part with King. Only thing that made me was the fact i like harwood so much.
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Can we pin this topic and revisit in 12 months?

I just don't rate defensive forward if that's their sole claim to fame. Need more strings to their bow (i.e. kicking 30+ goals).

I will bet you our respective 3rd rounders from next year's draft that King won't kick more than 30 goals next season.

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Kicked 12 in the last 7 games he was played as a forward. So yes, he's not just defensive.

Be my guest to pin the topic, he will remain in Richmond's best 18 for 2011.
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Are you accepting the bet?
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No, because nowhere did I say King will kick 30+. I said that he's cemented his spot in the side for 2011. Was an irrelevant offer.

However if you want to make an actual relevant bet (ie. games played) then I'm all ears.
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He plays for Richmond, how hard is it to win games? I'm saying he's no good, and subsequently, for the benefit of the kids - should be shipped along.

I didn't put words in your mouth, I said unless a defensive forward can hurt the opposition, they're no good. And then offered you a bet, which I'm assuming ur declining.
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He does hurt the opposition though. I'm just not 100% confident he will kick 30+. It was an unrealistic bet offer. Leon Davis, Cyril Rioli, Lindsay Thomas etc all kicked less than 30. I wouldn't be a smart man if I accepted that bet.

Your opinion is all well and good, but obviously Damien Hardwick, Justin Leppitsch, Brendan Lade, Wayne Campbell, Danny Daly and the rest of the coaching panel disagree with your stance that King is a hack.

If that was a case he wouldn't have been given so many games, and given his 2nd half of the year was very good, I'm not surprised.
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Points to port - harwood and Urquhart two best players in terms of value for the deal.
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I spose ur right, Richmond's depth is pretty appauling. I don't think it's a credit to the calibre of footballer King is that he gets regular games there. But in any case, we'll revisit this topic fo shizzle. Goodluck with the spud :p
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