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| The St Kilda/Geelong Trade | |
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| Topic Started: Jun 9 2009, 05:08 PM (859 Views) | |
| Lliam | Jun 9 2009, 05:08 PM Post #1 |
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Matthew Richardson
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Okay, so as everyone has most likely seen there was a trade between Geelong and St Kilda that has caused a lot of controversy. Well, the trade will be reversed. This decision won't be taken well by all members of the site, but I, along with the rest of the admin team think it is the correct decision. The reasoning is that Joey hasn't broken an official rule so therefore we have no grounds to force the trade through. Had both coaches agreed then the deal would have gone through but that didn't happen. There is currently no rule that says he can't change his mind before the trade is confirmed, it's more of a common sense interpretation which Joey has obviously missed. As much as it really does suck for Cleishy, the admin team are doing our best to prevent this from happening in the future and a change to the official rules will be posted in the near future. |
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| Stife | Jun 9 2009, 05:20 PM Post #2 |
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Bullshit tbh. |
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| Cleishy | Jun 9 2009, 05:27 PM Post #3 |
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Absolute crap decision. Joey has all shown what type of person he is, should of sucked it up, realised he had done the wrong thing and moved on. Very poorly handled IMO. |
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| Colby | Jun 9 2009, 05:39 PM Post #4 |
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Tom Jonas Appreciation Society
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Whilst i see where you're coming from, we really didn't have a leg to stand on in terms of forcing the trade to go through. Sorry mate, but there's nothing else we could have done. |
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| TFLUA-Tiger | Jun 9 2009, 05:48 PM Post #5 |
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Can see both sides of the story - see why Cleishy is livid, but also see why the admin panel couldn't make the trade go through. Poor form from Joey, but let's not forget I'm a coach who also stuffed up a trade early on in my career due to poor etiquette and have now gone on to earn abit of respect as a coach (I hope). Let's hope he learns from this, and that it can be eliminated form our game somehow (maybe by coaches learning the hard way) |
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| Eddie | Jun 9 2009, 05:48 PM Post #6 |
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Can see both sides. Accept admins reasoning. Not much else could be done. If he had wanted to trade after had been confirmed fair enough, but he got in before, even if delayed after first post. Hopefully Geelong learn from this. |
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| Snappy | Jun 9 2009, 05:49 PM Post #7 |
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I agree with Stife and Cleishy on this one. Not only did he post in the official trades section, but now it creates a precedent for future instances of the same nature |
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| Lliam | Jun 9 2009, 05:58 PM Post #8 |
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Matthew Richardson
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No it doesn't. A concrete rule will be developed in order to deal with this. |
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| Snappy | Jun 9 2009, 06:00 PM Post #9 |
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#TeamLummas
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People will still use this as an example |
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| Tarkyn_24 | Jun 9 2009, 06:02 PM Post #10 |
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Jarrad Oakleigh-Nichols
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So, essentially, Cleishy is the only one to be punished from this. All future occasions will go in what I'll term as 'Cleishy's' favour, but this one doesn't? |
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| Lliam | Jun 9 2009, 06:08 PM Post #11 |
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Matthew Richardson
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You haven't even heard the rule, but you're still speculating on who it'll favour? No wonder you couldn't hang onto a coaching job for more than two minutes. You're as bad as Hutchy! |
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| Tarkyn_24 | Jun 9 2009, 06:10 PM Post #12 |
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Jarrad Oakleigh-Nichols
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I was giving you the benefit of the doubt. Not even you, I considered, would be stupid enough to implement a rule as stupid as that. What stops a coach potentially making lurid offers such as Judd for Toovey, making a thread and then retracting their offer? You obviously have a problem with me, that's fine, but don't let it reflect in your posting. |
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| Dtm | Jun 9 2009, 06:11 PM Post #13 |
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Mark Blake
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Can't say I agree with this verdict either. It actually gives me a fair few concerns regarding other areas of the game that the rules aren't 100% clear on. I mean techinically, (I'm trying to be as stupid as possible here btw) nowhere in the rules does it say that your captain has to be named prior to the commencement of the round. All that is said is that your team has to be named. Admin will probably say here that naming a captain is part of the naming of the team. But nowhere does it say this clearly in the rules and by the ruling re GEE and STK, I can only assume I'd be allowed to get away with it as 'they don't have a leg to stand on'. I'd also like to see a detailed procedure of how a 'realistic 22' is decided now since obviously the idea of common sense has gone out the window with this decision. Nowhere in the rules does it say that decisions made in the 'Player Positional Queries' thread have to be abided to. I won't be taking any notice of that thread, or the rulings given in it until it is an 'official' thread. It's a dangerous precedent that has been set now and guys you are going to have to re consider all the rules because of it, re write quite a few and probably have to add a hell of a lot. Having said that JA had plenty of time to take this out of the admins hands and accepted the trade. Pretty poor by him more than anything imo. |
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| Lliam | Jun 9 2009, 06:12 PM Post #14 |
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Matthew Richardson
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Common sense mate, that's what'll stop them. Why would someone waste their time making offers like that when they don't intend to go through with it, and it would be reversed anyway. And I have no problem with you as a person, but if you're going to come in here and comment on things when you don't know the full story, I'd appreciate if you could be a little less inflamatory. |
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| Snappy | Jun 9 2009, 06:13 PM Post #15 |
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#TeamLummas
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Perhaps we should use the positions list like in the AFLPL, with a few minor changes to them? |
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| Dtm | Jun 9 2009, 06:14 PM Post #16 |
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Mark Blake
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I don't want to see that happen Snappy, but I fear it is the only way to go after this decision as it's the only concrete option I can see. |
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| Eddie | Jun 9 2009, 06:16 PM Post #17 |
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Mitch Thorp
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| Snappy | Jun 9 2009, 06:23 PM Post #18 |
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#TeamLummas
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I wouldn't mind it. It takes out the ridiculous player positioning some teams do |
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| Eddie | Jun 9 2009, 06:24 PM Post #19 |
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Could you give us an example or two? |
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| Colby | Jun 9 2009, 06:26 PM Post #20 |
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Tom Jonas Appreciation Society
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Fuck no!!! |
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