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| Topic Started: Oct 9 2016, 08:53 PM (1,786 Views) | |
| Snappy | Oct 17 2016, 04:46 PM Post #61 |
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#TeamLummas
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Under the old rules, the list maximum before drafting was already 35. Increasing the list sizes doesn't increase the quality of the PSD pool, if you wanted to do that you would go from 35 to 32 at the point of drafting and then a maximum of 40 during the season. I just can't see myself going from 35 players pre draft to 45 post draft without at least having 3 spots I wouldn't utilise. Edited by Snappy, Oct 17 2016, 04:46 PM.
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| Colby | Oct 17 2016, 04:48 PM Post #62 |
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Tom Jonas Appreciation Society
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Keep limits at 40/35 at lodgement, if clubs have lots of ND picks and want a PSD pick they'll have to delist more players which is good for the PSD. Then have a mid-season draft next season during the god forsaken bye rounds whereby each team has to delist the same amount of players as picks they want to take. This ensures: 1. Good strategy at list lodgement leading to hopefully marginally more draftsble players in the PSD. 2. Regular trading throughout the season as teams aren't allowed to sit on an additional five spuds who get a game, this is crucial to the success of the coach culls. 3. An avenue for unlisted players to make their way back into circulation without having to wait until the following season. 4. We have something to do during the bye rounds. |
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| Snappy | Oct 17 2016, 04:53 PM Post #63 |
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#TeamLummas
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Out of interest, how many AFL listed players were not on AFFL lists during the season? I'm a fan of how the bye rounds on AFFL currently pan out. Coaches have access to the fixture so we know who are going to come up against and have ample time to envision how the bye rounds play out. With how competitive 2017 is shaping up to be, we should see more trading during bye rounds because some of those wins become crucial. I learnt my lesson with this last season when I lost one of my bye round fixtures by less than 15 points; had I won I would have played finals. I won't make that mistake again and be more strategic with my trading/planning. With equalisation making the teams across the board more competitive, I dare say I won't be the only one who won't treat byes as an afterthought anymore. Edited by Snappy, Oct 17 2016, 04:57 PM.
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| Pinny | Oct 17 2016, 05:04 PM Post #64 |
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John Meesen
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I'm with Colby |
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| Stoney | Oct 17 2016, 08:39 PM Post #65 |
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David Spriggs
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I'm completely open to the 35/40 idea. But I don't follow this logic. If (under what RLL posted) every club delists to 35, every year there would be roughly 160 eligible PSD players?? That alone singificantly increases the volume and quality of the PSD relative to previous years. |
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| WAG | Oct 17 2016, 08:46 PM Post #66 |
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The Texan
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Does Rookie list remain at 4? |
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| Eskimo Brother | Oct 17 2016, 08:54 PM Post #67 |
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#changethebanner
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Rookie list is already at 5. |
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| WAG | Oct 17 2016, 08:57 PM Post #68 |
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The Texan
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Does Rookie list remain at 5? |
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| Schulzenfest | Oct 19 2016, 03:14 PM Post #69 |
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Beau Dowler
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| Lliam | Oct 29 2016, 09:05 AM Post #70 |
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LIST SIZES (take two) So it's safe to say that the previous announcement regarding list sizes wasn't a popular one, but we've listened and we'll be staying with our current list sizes. That means a maximum of 40 senior players and a maximum of 35 senior players at list lodgement. We will also be bringing in the first ever mid-season draft! We're throwing it over to you guys for ideas as to how it should be run. Whether you have your own suggestion, you're happy with one of the suggestions that have already been made or you're keen for something different - let us know! |
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| Schulzenfest | Oct 29 2016, 09:08 AM Post #71 |
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Beau Dowler
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I like it. Good call admin. |
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| Schulzenfest | Oct 29 2016, 09:18 AM Post #72 |
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Beau Dowler
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How I'd run the midseason draft: 1) Hold it on the Monday before the first bye round 2) Draft order determined by total points (would be unfair to have it determined by ladder position before every team has played each other) 3) Player eligibility restricted to currently listed AFL players 3) On your team's turn, if you have less than the maximum 40 players, you can take a player of your choice, or you can pass. If you have the maximum 40 players already, you have the option of delisting a senior listed player and replacing them with an unlisted player, or you can pass. Once you pass, you're out of the draft. 4) Draft goes for as many rounds as necessary until everybody has passed. An interesting question would be whether participants in the draft can pick up players who have been previously delisted in the draft. i.e. Let's say I have the first pick and I delist Jesse Hogan to pick up John Butcher (strongly considering it), can the coach with the second pick in the draft then pick up Jesse Hogan, or is he off-limits until the PSD? I'd be leaning towards no due to the possibility of making later picks in the draft more valuable than early picks if a coach does something stupid, but others may feel differently. |
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| Stoney | Oct 29 2016, 09:21 AM Post #73 |
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David Spriggs
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Agree strongly. |
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| Schulzenfest | Oct 29 2016, 09:33 AM Post #74 |
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Beau Dowler
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Actually, with the reduced team numbers, are we playing over the bye rounds next year or not? |
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| Stoney | Oct 29 2016, 09:58 AM Post #75 |
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David Spriggs
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I would certainly hope so, it's a variable that throws a spanner in the works and forces teams to trade. Winning/losing a bye week can be the difference between finals and missing out. Therefore I'd like to promote the season being as difficult as possible to force people to have to be active to succeed. Also, list "quality" should have improved considerably with the GC/GWS reductions. So you might be 2 players less in quantity (usually your worst two players won't play seniors any way), but the net effect should still result in teams having more 3-5 players playing each wk than previous years. |
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| Lummas | Oct 30 2016, 07:47 AM Post #76 |
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Beau Dowler
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VICTORY MID SEASON DRAFT!!!! If players are delisted prior to the mid season lodgement then they absolutely must be available to be picked up in mid season draft. |
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| Stoney | Oct 30 2016, 08:37 AM Post #77 |
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David Spriggs
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Under what Schulz ws suggesting there was no list lodgement - which caused a potential issue. If we have a designated list lodgement, there is no issue. |
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| Schulzenfest | Oct 30 2016, 09:09 AM Post #78 |
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Beau Dowler
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Personally I'd prefer no lodgement, you just get the choice of delisting a player when it's your turn. I'd hate to have pick 6 or so in the draft, delist a player I would've preferred to keep in the hope that another unlisted player would slide to my pick, only to end up seeing both the player I delisted and the player I wanted to bring in go before my pick. |
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| Stoney | Oct 30 2016, 09:53 AM Post #79 |
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David Spriggs
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That's the exact situation which adds an element of strategy to the draft. I'd prefer that scenario. It's also makes the MSD more relevant as there will be the free agent pool AND those players delisted the week leading up to it. |
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| Schulzenfest | Oct 30 2016, 09:58 AM Post #80 |
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Beau Dowler
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Adds an element of luck as much as it adds an element of strategy. That said, I'm not violently opposed to a midseason lodgment, so if that's what the majority wants, I'll leave it. |
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