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Inflation
Topic Started: 21st August 2008 - 01:41 PM (379 Views)
Lee D'su
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Brown wants to keep the rate of inflation below 2.5%. He has told public sector workers that there wages are to be limited to 2% to ensure they hit their targets. So why therefore has my local goverment (labour run) been allowed to put up car parking prices up from £3.50 to £4.00. Surely they should have gone up to £3.60 with rounding up. Until Brown puts limits on goverment bodies increasing prices by more than inflation then I support the local council workers.

ps. The local council officials have free parking.
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Lee D'su
Aug 21 2008, 12:41 PM
Brown wants to keep the rate of inflation below 2.5%. He has told public sector workers that there wages are to be limited to 2% to ensure they hit their targets. So why therefore has my local goverment (labour run) been allowed to put up car parking prices up from £3.50 to £4.00. Surely they should have gone up to £3.60 with rounding up. Until Brown puts limits on goverment bodies increasing prices by more than inflation then I support the local council workers.

ps. The local council officials have free parking.

My main job is with Devon County Council and my salary has increased well below inflation for years and years
On top of that we had to go through job evaluation which is another government way of conning pulic sector workers
My post was considered before JE to be 20% underpaid
JE recomended in November 2006 that my salary be reduced by 23.5%
and I'm still waiting for my appeal to be heard
Job security is also a thing of the past with huge cut backs every year and they have even tried to attack our pension, which was one reason for putting up with being under paid
I'm looking at doing a fnd degree in IT to get out of here but I need 2 or 3 days at college a week during term time and I alread y have two jobs

Just watch the ministers give themselves a big rise as usual

Rant over :D
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Kev Walker
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The recent 2 day strike was a joke in our city. We were awarded 2.5% and have been consistantly under-awarded the inflaction rate for the past few years. The strike was to get the award up'd to 4% which is somewhere near the estimated inflation rate - 2 days of strikes meant that even if we were awarded the extra 1.5% we would still be out of pocket at the end of the year due to 2 days loss of pay. I'd rather we opted for a selective strike across the council - vital services coming out but being paid out of contributions from those who opted to work.

We have just been through a council-wide regrading structure with the lowest paid coming better off by between £500 - £1000 a year but everyone else seems to be worse off by £1000's (one or two in my area by £9000). Strange how after the council announced there was no more money in the pot they suddenly found £6.3 million due to budget savings (the accountant who missed that one wants shooting!).

Parking charges have gone thru the roof here as the council recognised that tourism would bring in vast amounts - yes they did but the day-trippers won't be coming back!.

The biggest rip off I my view is the Council Tax - we pay a high rate but the money is sent to Central Government and then distrubuted across the nation - why should I pay a high tax compared to a low tax slum area in London only for it to be sent to them to pay to have graffiti painted off their walls or their rubbish-strewn streets cleaned?
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Kev Walker
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Aug 21 2008, 01:52 PM

The local council officials have free parking.

My main job is with Devon County Council and my salary has increased well below inflation for years and years
On top of that we had to go through job evaluation which is another government way of conning pulic sector workers
My post was considered before JE to be 20% underpaid
JE recomended in November 2006 that my salary be reduced by 23.5%
and I'm still waiting for my appeal to be heard
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Have they also tried to alter your working time to 7am - 7pm 7 days a week so therefore scrapping overtime?. Ours have and tried to tie it into the "Governments regrading" plan.

Our Annual Cost of Living rise has been added into the new pay-rates so people who have been awarded a slight pay increase due to the regrading have not sussed that they are actually infact worse off - because the regrading is under review by the union and it's members no one has actually received any cost of living rise on their existing "old scale" yet (anyone who has accepted the new pay-scales have recieved it though!).

And yes I agree Senior Management are not subject to the regrading and recieve large increases well above Browns inflaction cap!
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Kev Walker
Aug 21 2008, 01:19 PM
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01:52 PM

The local council officials have free parking.

My main job is with Devon County Council and my salary has increased well below inflation for years and years
On top of that we had to go through job evaluation which is another government way of conning pulic sector workers
My post was considered before JE to be 20% underpaid
JE recomended in November 2006 that my salary be reduced by 23.5%
and I'm still waiting for my appeal to be heard

Have they also tried to alter your working time to 7am - 7pm 7 days a week so therefore scrapping overtime?. Ours have and tried to tie it into the "Governments regrading" plan.

Our Annual Cost of Living rise has been added into the new pay-rates so people who have been awarded a slight pay increase due to the regrading have not sussed that they are actually infact worse off - because the regrading is under review by the union and it's members no one has actually received any cost of living rise on their existing "old scale" yet (anyone who has accepted the new pay-scales have recieved it though!).

And yes I agree Senior Management are not subject to the regrading and recieve large increases well above Browns inflaction cap! [/QUOTE]
I was thinking instead of striking for which you never get the money back even if your succesful - everyone should wear say, orange boiler suits to work until they agree a decent increase
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Matt
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Same boat here, getting a 2% rise but inflation due at between 3.5% and 4%, gonna make no dent in the increasing inflation rates either as it's proved - i say proved, a few studies which the government ignore cos it makes them look bad - that it's not public sector pay which influences inflation. the fat cat pay that top bosses "earn" is what's making things bad.

Heard one bloke at an event complain that he's going to be in the shit this year as he won't get his bonus... bonus that he relies on for his mortgage.... bonus of £100,000.

two issues i have with this, a bonus of £100,000 is scandalous - he only worked in sales and by all accounts it was a given as long as the boom period continued.

2nd one being he shouldn't be basing his mortgage on his bonus, therefore if he'd based it on normal pay he would have been able to a) afford it and b ) inflation wouldn't be as affected due to spending levels being at a normal level.

private sector pay at the top level should be brought into more reasonable territory.
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Matt
Aug 21 2008, 01:36 PM
Same boat here, getting a 2% rise but inflation due at between 3.5% and 4%, gonna make no dent in the increasing inflation rates either as it's proved - i say proved, a few studies which the government ignore cos it makes them look bad - that it's not public sector pay which influences inflation. the fat cat pay that top bosses "earn" is what's making things bad.

Heard one bloke at an event complain that he's going to be in the shit this year as he won't get his bonus... bonus that he relies on for his mortgage.... bonus of £100,000.

two issues i have with this, a bonus of £100,000 is scandalous - he only worked in sales and by all accounts it was a given as long as the boom period continued.

2nd one being he shouldn't be basing his mortgage on his bonus, therefore if he'd based it on normal pay he would have been able to a) afford it and b ) inflation wouldn't be as affected due to spending levels being at a normal level.

private sector pay at the top level should be brought into more reasonable territory.

Bonuses in 'the city' are often 500k, 1mil
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Matt
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Aug 21 2008, 02:45 PM
Matt
Aug 21 2008, 01:36 PM
Same boat here, getting a 2% rise but inflation due at between 3.5% and 4%, gonna make no dent in the increasing inflation rates either as it's proved - i say proved, a few studies which the government ignore cos it makes them look bad - that it's not public sector pay which influences inflation. the fat cat pay that top bosses "earn" is what's making things bad.

Heard one bloke at an event complain that he's going to be in the shit this year as he won't get his bonus... bonus that he relies on for his mortgage.... bonus of £100,000.

two issues i have with this, a bonus of £100,000 is scandalous - he only worked in sales and by all accounts it was a given as long as the boom period continued.

2nd one being he shouldn't be basing his mortgage on his bonus, therefore if he'd based it on normal pay he would have been able to a) afford it and b ) inflation wouldn't be as affected due to spending levels being at a normal level.

private sector pay at the top level should be brought into more reasonable territory.

Bonuses in 'the city' are often 500k, 1mil

This was someone from a little firm in Leeds. nowhere close to "city" job and never will be....
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garlic bread
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i was in york in sunday..£5 for parking for 3 hours..FFS...

Also, and this will be controverisal...

My view is that everybody has a choice. If you want to be a senior manager or clerk...your choice. Difficult to complain...This is a great country if you want something...chances are if you have the drive...you can get it...

People dont get £100k bonus if they did not earn it. And by earn it I mean they will have contributed more than the £100 via performance etc. The top paid person in HSBC is nowhere near the top of the company!!
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Matt
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Aug 21 2008, 05:04 PM
i was in york in sunday..£5 for parking for 3 hours..FFS...

Also, and this will be controverisal...

My view is that everybody has a choice. If you want to be a senior manager or clerk...your choice. Difficult to complain...This is a great country if you want something...chances are if you have the drive...you can get it...

People dont get £100k bonus if they did not earn it. And by earn it I mean they will have contributed more than the £100 via performance etc. The top paid person in HSBC is nowhere near the top of the company!!

Not saying people shouldn't get what they have earn't, what i am saying is by basing his expected earnings on his bonus he's contributing to the inflation problem, if he'd based it on his basic earnings and bought a house in that bracket inflation wouldn't go up.

The other thing is the bonus was a given, he wasn't earning it, he was being paid more than he "earnt". £100,000 extra for doing his job at the level he should have been doing it at anyway.

He was a good salesman, he just wasn't very clever....
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I have just got a 14% rise, gutted I was expecting 20%. Never mind, the £4k bonus eased the pain a little.
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305miles2EllandRd
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I have just been told that my firm are not renewing parking permits this year and a remit will cost me £450 per year.

At the same time our mayor seems to be making everywehere remotely near the town centre pay & display or restricted time parking. Bastard.
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aberdeenwhite
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im not getting a raise this year.

in fact apparently i'll be lucky if i get to keep my job.

we're on the front line so to speak in as when the economy is tight people cut back on things like magazines and newspapers which is what we do.

while i agree that everyone should be getting a raise to cover the cost of living, you should be grateful while you can that you've still got a job, cos there's going to be many more like me in the not too distant future....

i find out if i've still got a job on wednesday. deep joy.
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onloantodiv1
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aberdeenwhite
Aug 21 2008, 09:52 PM
im not getting a raise this year.

in fact apparently i'll be lucky if i get to keep my job.

we're on the front line so to speak in as when the economy is tight people cut back on things like magazines and newspapers which is what we do.

while i agree that everyone should be getting a raise to cover the cost of living, you should be grateful while you can that you've still got a job, cos there's going to be many more like me in the not too distant future....

i find out if i've still got a job on wednesday. deep joy.

Good luck, hope they keep you on, Ive no idea whether my rise is inline with inlfation or not, i know its staged over three years, but they made it so complicated to understand i don't know where i am.
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garlic bread
Aug 21 2008, 04:04 PM
i was in york in sunday..£5 for parking for 3 hours..FFS...

Also, and this will be controverisal...

My view is that everybody has a choice. If you want to be a senior manager or clerk...your choice. Difficult to complain...This is a great country if you want something...chances are if you have the drive...you can get it...

People dont get £100k bonus if they did not earn it. And by earn it I mean they will have contributed more than the £100 via performance etc. The top paid person in HSBC is nowhere near the top of the company!!

Actually people do get paid bonuses they haven't earned

I was reading articles in the New York Times when the 'credit crunch' was kicking off and they were showing examples of how the US finance houses had got themselves so deep in the poo
Because the housing market was booming, mortgages were being given without checking the applicant could afford the repayments or whether the property was worth the sum being borrowed against it.
By the time the home owner started defaulting on the payments everyone had had their bonuses, from the local office to the city boys
And our banks bought into this debt without thoroughly checking what they were buying into
All the time they were taking big bonuses from all this wonderful business we've got ourselves
But now it gone tits up, you and I are counting the cost and I don't see any of the fat cats handing their bonuses back

They have even gone on the news and told us that it's our fault for taking the credit they were offering - what a f**king nerve
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