Do Violent Virtual Games Fuel Violent Natures

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Do Violent Virtual Games Fuel Violent Natures
Topic Started: 30th April 2008 - 03:42 PM (333 Views)
cuppy	30th April 2008 - 03:42 PM Post #1
Friendliest Poster 2006 Posts: 31,374 Group: Moderator Member #23 Joined: 23 November 2003	As per Quejs post on the main board re this article Article Do people think the violence featured in games like Grand Theft Auto encourage or add fuel to an already aggressive society? Or are games like these a result of a society already fuelled with a violent appetite? Discuss



Stubbsy	30th April 2008 - 03:51 PM Post #2
100% Leeds Posts: 3,731 Group: Members Member #748 Joined: 1 November 2005	In the same way that playing virtua tennis doesn't make me want to play tennis, and call of duty doesn't make me want to join the army, not at all. There will always be a clear link between the two, it's easy for people to blame something, but it gives people an excuse as opposed to being the fundamental reason behind it. Perhaps the only link between the two in this is that it puts forward the idea, not that it promotes it, but that it makes people perhaps think about it. There will always be a minority of society who are mentally ill or sick individuals who perhaps are given the confidence to go out and commit crimes on the basis that they can do it on a game. But surely then the same can be said for ideas they would pick up in films, tv programs or even music.



Sir Quej Of Quejdom	1st May 2008 - 11:15 AM Post #3
100% Leeds Posts: 1,611 Group: Members Member #414 Joined: 4 June 2004	I agree with Stubbsy on this (mostly). I think games/films/tv are simply used as an excuse for the ever increasing violent nature of society in general. I think it actually detracts from the real reasons, which are (in my opinion) that children in our society grow up now being used to having what they want given to them on a plate. This reduces their respect for the value of the things they have and inturn for the value of human life. Our society is just to demanding, both financially and mentally. This puts a massive strain on young people and some simply chose the easy way out (a life of crime). Add to that the fact that out justice system is way way way too soft on them and also factor in the obvious clash of differing cultures that is so widespred in this country. I cant imagine the kids in Africa have much "Game time" when they are young but just look at what goes on over there. If someone is inclined to commit these crimes, they will do it regardless of what their "motivational tool" is. Violent games/films/tv are simply an easy target. Violence has been widespread in cartoons since the invention of moving pictures. It is not a new phenomenon. The demand for these games must be there or they would not sell. If it is the games, where did it start? What fueled the demand for the first violent game? if anything, I thing these games could be an outlet for people to vent their built up frustrations.



Jamie_F	18th August 2008 - 04:37 PM Post #4
Getting there... Posts: 47 Group: Members Member #1,621 Joined: 30 July 2008	I think it's ridiculous to suggest that violent games fuel violent natures - people with violent natures will be violent anyhow, some people talk as if there was nocrime before video games. Also people don't apply the same principle to violent films or violent books (allthough the person does take a more active role in the games.)



mmal	20th October 2008 - 07:26 PM Post #5
Best female foreigner Posts: 859 Group: Members Member #117 Joined: 13 January 2004	The only thing I noticed with kids in as I see them playing games in the library, when they come in they are just normal kids when they leave they are overly stimulated, hyper and aggressive, not to the point of violence but the games definitely does something to them. Don't get me wrong I have nothing against games, I play them all the time, I'm just saying with kids you can see the difference.



onloantodiv1	24th October 2008 - 09:37 PM Post #6
100% Leeds Posts: 1,709 Group: Members Member #849 Joined: 2 October 2006	mmal 20th October 2008 - 07:26 PM The only thing I noticed with kids in as I see them playing games in the library, when they come in they are just normal kids when they leave they are overly stimulated, hyper and aggressive, not to the point of violence but the games definitely does something to them. Don't get me wrong I have nothing against games, I play them all the time, I'm just saying with kids you can see the difference. excuse me two seconds whilst i take a hooker into the bushes in my car to get my health back to 100



forbes4leeds	25th October 2008 - 09:37 PM Post #7
Team Favourite Posts: 131 Group: Members Member #888 Joined: 13 December 2006	Not at all, ive heard of people killing people after watching robin hood and nothing is done, people (parents) have very bad opinions of games !



Fitz	28th October 2008 - 10:23 PM Post #8
Perfectly formed member Posts: 15,305 Group: Moderator Member #183 Joined: 30 January 2004	forbes4leeds 25th October 2008 - 09:37 PM Not at all, ive heard of people killing people after watching robin hood and nothing is done, people (parents) have very bad opinions of games ! Yes, but thats cos Robin Hood was shite........



T.G.	31st October 2008 - 01:54 PM Post #9
Gunslinger Posts: 986 Group: Members Member #237 Joined: 12 February 2004	Games are still in a relative infancy comapered to films. It's the new kid on the block to blame society's ills on. In the 70s/80s it was the video nasty that was leading us all to violent armaggedon. 'Shit, anyone that watches Childs Play will be hacking out someones spleen before the weekend' screamed the papers (or something along those lines). Exactly the same thing with games now. Parents blaming games for corrupting their kids is another matter. Don't buy your 8 year old a game that very clearly has a big red f*ck off sign on the front saying '18', then run to the papers in horrified indignation when the game contains swearing/violence. The aforementioned sign is there for a reason, not decoration.



Sir Quej Of Quejdom	4th November 2008 - 09:57 AM Post #10
100% Leeds Posts: 1,611 Group: Members Member #414 Joined: 4 June 2004	T.G. 31st October 2008 - 01:54 PM Games are still in a relative infancy comapered to films. It's the new kid on the block to blame society's ills on. In the 70s/80s it was the video nasty that was leading us all to violent armaggedon. 'Shit, anyone that watches Childs Play will be hacking out someones spleen before the weekend' screamed the papers (or something along those lines). Exactly the same thing with games now. Parents blaming games for corrupting their kids is another matter. Don't buy your 8 year old a game that very clearly has a big red f*ck off sign on the front saying '18', then run to the papers in horrified indignation when the game contains swearing/violence. The aforementioned sign is there for a reason, not decoration. Completely agree T.G. My 8 year old son is only allowed on the Xbox360 two nights a week and I would not dream of letting him play games like GTA 4. He constantly comes home from school saying that his best mate has been playing that game. His mum and Dad bought it for him within a week of it being released. I dont have a problem with my boy playing war games or Alien shooters because I think the modern war games can even be quite enlightening for them. The way modern war games are made goes a long way to showing kids that wars are not good and that bad things happen in them. My son always wanted to be soldier until I allowed him to play these games and now he says he does not want to go to war because he does not want to see his friends get killed so I think this has had the desired effect.



Fitz	26th November 2008 - 03:27 PM Post #11
Perfectly formed member Posts: 15,305 Group: Moderator Member #183 Joined: 30 January 2004	T.G. 31st October 2008 - 01:54 PM Games are still in a relative infancy comapered to films. It's the new kid on the block to blame society's ills on. In the 70s/80s it was the video nasty that was leading us all to violent armaggedon. 'Shit, anyone that watches Childs Play will be hacking out someones spleen before the weekend' screamed the papers (or something along those lines). Exactly the same thing with games now. Parents blaming games for corrupting their kids is another matter. Don't buy your 8 year old a game that very clearly has a big red f*ck off sign on the front saying '18', then run to the papers in horrified indignation when the game contains swearing/violence. The aforementioned sign is there for a reason, not decoration. Do you not think there was something to it after poor little Jamie Bolger? Almost scene for scene from the film, if I remember.



northernwhites	27th November 2008 - 09:39 PM Post #12
100% Leeds Posts: 1,426 Group: Members Member #904 Joined: 28 December 2006	I was playing Grand Theft Auto last night. I can confirm that on my way to and from work today I had no urge to kill prostitutes, hunt for cocaine in abandoned hospitals or carjack the Mercedes CLK at the petrol station.



Sir Quej Of Quejdom	28th November 2008 - 05:08 PM Post #13
100% Leeds Posts: 1,611 Group: Members Member #414 Joined: 4 June 2004	northernwhites 27th November 2008 - 09:39 PM I was playing Grand Theft Auto last night. I can confirm that on my way to and from work today I had no urge to kill prostitutes, hunt for cocaine in abandoned hospitals or carjack the Mercedes CLK at the petrol station. Hadn' :scarehair: t you already done all that before playing the game though.......



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