Recycling.

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Recycling.
Topic Started: 30th October 2007 - 01:37 PM (272 Views)
Lee D'su	30th October 2007 - 01:37 PM Post #1
Funniest Poster and Getter of tickets Posts: 29,473 Group: Admin Member #443 Joined: 14 June 2004	I see we are going to get a "bin" tax where the council will be able to charge people extra if they make more rubbish. Why, in this country, is the stick method of taxing always used. When Shorts/GB/Boots and I were in Germany lately, in every supermarket they had a recycling point. People fed there plastic bottles into the machine and got a credit note off their shopping. All plastic bottles have a small deposit added to it, and when you take the plastic bottle back, the money is returned. You see several people out looking for bottles to take back to the shops. At the football beer was served in plastic glasses (slightly better standard than the plastic glasses used over here) and the same principle was applied. At first the locals took advantage of our naivety, collecting our glasses from us as we finished our drinks, but us Brits soon caught on, taking our glasses back for our small discount. At the end of the game the amount of glasses left on the terraces...........zero. By God the carrot method works, it just takes a forward thinking government to realise.



aberdeenwhite	30th October 2007 - 01:53 PM Post #2
Board (and) Drunk since 2005 Posts: 7,191 Group: Members Member #371 Joined: 9 May 2004	ahhh recycling. my favourite ranty subject....but am done ranting for today. the wife has got me recycling - basically anything that can be recycled goes in a big box, however, sheffield city council only provide a bin for paper based products, meaning that the wife has to drive up to our local tip to recycle all the cans, glass, plastic etc etc. (which as you can apperciate is quite a lot in our house :P ). While she doesn't mind doing this, its no surprise that people don't recycle at all, as it's just far too much effort. if sheffield introduced a biweekly collection (like rotherham do now grrr) we'd have no problem as the majority of the stuff we used gets recycled.....we now only throw out about half a bagful of rubbish a week. people are lazy - because the council dont pick up most recyling and they can't be arsed to do it, they generate loads of rubbish which (in all fariness) most could be recycled. maybe if they stand to lose a few quid, maybe they will.....tho if you're a single mum with 15 kids in tow and no car, you'd probably rather not cart a weeks worth of rubbish half way across town to the skip......



Matt	30th October 2007 - 01:54 PM Post #3
Dee's a liar.... Posts: 10,978 Group: Members Member #122 Joined: 14 January 2004	Lee D'su Oct 30 2007, 01:37 PM I see we are going to get a "bin" tax where the council will be able to charge people extra if they make more rubbish. Why, in this country, is the stick method of taxing always used. When Shorts/GB/Boots and I were in Germany lately, in every supermarket they had a recycling point. People fed there plastic bottles into the machine and got a credit note off their shopping. All plastic bottles have a small deposit added to it, and when you take the plastic bottle back, the money is returned. You see several people out looking for bottles to take back to the shops. At the football beer was served in plastic glasses (slightly better standard than the plastic glasses used over here) and the same principle was applied. At first the locals took advantage of our naivety, collecting our glasses from us as we finished our drinks, but us Brits soon caught on, taking our glasses back for our small discount. At the end of the game the amount of glasses left on the terraces...........zero. By God the carrot method works, it just takes a forward thinking government to realise. They use the same principle at festivals too, at Leeds this year you got 10p for every cup (i say cup cos it was that paper cardboard stuff you get rather than a plastic glass) loads of skint people (students) were collecting them and getting a free pint cos people didn't realise what was going on, soon stopped throwing them away though.



Matt	30th October 2007 - 01:59 PM Post #4
Dee's a liar.... Posts: 10,978 Group: Members Member #122 Joined: 14 January 2004	aberdeenwhite Oct 30 2007, 01:53 PM ahhh recycling. my favourite ranty subject....but am done ranting for today. the wife has got me recycling - basically anything that can be recycled goes in a big box, however, sheffield city council only provide a bin for paper based products, meaning that the wife has to drive up to our local tip to recycle all the cans, glass, plastic etc etc. (which as you can apperciate is quite a lot in our house :P ). While she doesn't mind doing this, its no surprise that people don't recycle at all, as it's just far too much effort. if sheffield introduced a biweekly collection (like rotherham do now grrr) we'd have no problem as the majority of the stuff we used gets recycled.....we now only throw out about half a bagful of rubbish a week. people are lazy - because the council dont pick up most recyling and they can't be arsed to do it, they generate loads of rubbish which (in all fariness) most could be recycled. maybe if they stand to lose a few quid, maybe they will.....tho if you're a single mum with 15 kids in tow and no car, you'd probably rather not cart a weeks worth of rubbish half way across town to the skip...... we get a monthly recycling collection, 90% of our stuff goes in that, we only have one black bin bag a week that gets taken away, could fit it in a wheelie bin half the size of the one we have. don't see the point in not providing a green wheelie bin for people, for the sake of one collection a month or two even, it would save so much money for everyone, lazy governing i feel.



Kev Walker	30th October 2007 - 06:18 PM Post #5
Services to LUFC for putting up with a scouser!!! Posts: 13,132 Group: Members Member #18 Joined: 23 November 2003	Lee D'su Oct 30 2007, 01:37 PM Why, in this country, is the stick method of taxing always used. Because the Government is the instigator with it's Land-fill tax. I think the local councils are in a no-win situation - do nothing and get fined by the Government, do something and get slagged of by the local citizens. Good idea though by the Germans and one which could work if given a little effort on the publics part.



Lee D'su	30th October 2007 - 07:41 PM Post #6
Funniest Poster and Getter of tickets Posts: 29,473 Group: Admin Member #443 Joined: 14 June 2004	The carrot system does work though. we have loads on old phones lying around the house. I read on the Tesco site about recycling. Just put them in an envelope with your clubcard number and 2 weeks later �10 was added to my clubcard account, so we did it with the ink cartidges, some of which hadn't been used due to changing printers. We got another �1.00 for that. And don't get me started on land fill. WW likes tio do her bit and it didn't bother me, until Liverpool council decided to drop all it's rubbish into a land fill site 5 miles away. Why bother trying to make your area a better place when your neighbour can come along and shit it all up anyway.



Dee	30th October 2007 - 07:53 PM Post #7
really very nice person Posts: 30,292 Group: Members Member #176 Joined: 25 January 2004	my dad has two bins and a box.......i'm bewildered by all the different recycling options but he's well up for it, have to rinse out all cans and bottles etc etc however Chester........well, our block of flats has one HUGE wheely bin which EVERYTHING goes into bar bottles we have been provided with those silly "carrier bags" to put bottles in.......and as we're all obviously alkys in my block they're full by tuesday and the collection is on monday.......so a couple of the residents then chuck bottles into the big skippy thing.......makes me really mad!!!



Eastyorkswhite	30th October 2007 - 09:13 PM Post #8
100% Leeds Posts: 756 Group: Members Member #1,079 Joined: 29 July 2007	I must admit to recycling my old mobile phones only other than that i chuck all in the bin considering i dont even fill my bin when bin men are due its just something i dont do...



Rich	31st October 2007 - 12:19 PM Post #9
Technically backward twat. Posts: 13,288 Group: Moderator Member #49 Joined: 23 November 2003	We recycle everything. We have two green wheely bins, we requested a second, and one black one. The black one gets about quarter full and is emptied every week. The green ones are collected every 4 weeks and are sometimes over-flowing! It would help if a lot of companies didn't wrap goods in loads of packaging though. I also take bottles to the local supermarket where there's big skips in the car park. Sheffield has a district heating amin which provides hot water to a large part of the city. Basically it's like a huge central heating system with an incinerator and underground pipework. I think they burn a lot of rubbish in that.



Wickywhite	31st October 2007 - 01:28 PM Post #10
best all-rounder Posts: 14,962 Group: Moderator Member #10 Joined: 23 November 2003	Rich Oct 31 2007, 11:19 AM It would help if a lot of companies didn't wrap goods in loads of packaging though. I agree about the packaging. One of Col's (few) compalints about me recycling is the amount of cardboard we have in the house. He has bought me a box to put it all in but it's usually overflowing in a few days. As our council doesn't take cardboard it's a real pain in the ass having to take it up the tip, as our car boot is usallly full of sweets and crisps for the vening machines we fill. Our council take recycling every week, and rubbish and garden waste on alternate fortnights. I've always recycled- I used to live in Bath which was one of the first councils to introduce doorstep collections, so I've done it all my adult life so can't understand those who fail to do it when the council collects it for them. If I owned my own home I'd have a compost heap for the green waste too, but I din't think our letting agents would be too chuffed with that!



MDF	1st November 2007 - 12:34 PM Post #11
A little rusty.... Posts: 7,195 Group: Members Member #9 Joined: 23 November 2003	Oh I must be ill informed....thought this thread was about mountain biking. :lol:



Milgod	28th October 2008 - 09:27 AM Post #12
Giver of REBELOVE !!! Posts: 21,973 Group: Moderator Member #346 Joined: 30 March 2004	In Peterborough we have three wheelie bins for various things. It's fine for us as we have a drive that the bins can go on, i'm not sure what people with no drives have. We try and recycle as much as we can. Nappies at the moment are taking up most of the black bag space. In Bath we had one small green box so it was harder to recycle as much (although it was collected weekly not fortnightly like here). Plus Bath is pretty much all hills so the wheelie bins might not have worked as well there. I also like the incentive idea. We recycle anyway, but anything to get even more people doing it couldn't hurt. Some people are just lazy I guess and can't be bothered whatever the incentive/threat is.



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